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international order scam

A few days back, a message was posted to the india-gii mailing list, with the following spam message.

Return-Path: 	<collectstore2 at yahoo.com>
Received: 	from web12010.mail.yahoo.com (web12010.mail.yahoo.com
[216.136.174.137]) by www.webindia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id
i6O2p3G05024 for <xxxxx at example.com>; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:51:03 -0700
Message-ID: 	<20040724025325.62740.qmail at web12010.mail.yahoo.com>

Received: 	from [213.185.119.130] by web12010.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP;
Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:53:25 PDT
Date: 	Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:53:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	SAMMY SHOLOLA <collectstore2 at yahoo.com>
Subject: 	international order
To: 	xxx at example.com
MIME-Version: 	1.0
Content-Type: 	multipart/alternative;
boundary="0-631815243-1090637605=:57251"


Hello Sales,
Please i will like to order for some products in your store and will
like to know if you ship goods internationally,Please reply as soon s
possible regarding this so i will know the next step,besides i will be
paying with my Credit Card.Hope to read from you sooner.
Best Regards,
Sammy Sholola 

I was quite intrigued by this spam. This is quite different from the Nigerian-419 scam. On the face of it, it appears to have come from a confused customer. I tried to search for a discussion on this type of scam but did not turn up anything useful. I posted a message back to the mailing list. Suresh Ramasubramanian and Devdas Bhagat were kind enough to throw more light on this type of scam

The scammer pays with a stolen credit card, or by a fake cashiers check. However, that is not the only means these slimeballs swindle money. If the product you are selling costs Rs.6500 he will pay you Rs.10,000 (story is, he got a check from one of his customers, and he is endorsing it over to you, and you have to pay him the difference in cash by western union). Western union transfer is instant ... but when you present the check in your bank, it has to go to the foreign bank for clearance before it is found to be bogus, so that money credited to your account till the check clears is now debited back to the bank. In the meantime if you have gone and shipped the goods, you face even more loss.

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    • Posted byMike
    • on
    I received a similar email from this guy. It is a scam and we receive them all of the time. I just report their email addy's to abuse@fillintheblank.com. Hopefully they are doing their part and taking appropriate action. But who knows?? They probably get a ton of them every day.
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    • Posted byRoger
    • on
    I received this email, and have several similar:

    "SALES REPRESENTATIVES
    Hi there,
    Good day and well done i am Mr Tim Nelson and i
    will like to
    place an international order from your store and also
    to know if you do
    accept credit cards or money orders for
    the charges made
    and if you would ship to these
    address slated below
    # 3 Adenmosun street
    mushin
    lagos state, Nigeria
    234-01
    Thanks!!
    Best regards
    Tim Nelson."
    From: jokem@yahoo.com"

    I ignore them. Couple of years ago I accepted an order from a Nigerian who paid with a CC. I shipped the order, got the CC money, and the order was returned by the PO. So I 'made money'!. Another order was also returned, paid by a stolen CC and the owner was refuned. I was out shipping $. Very strange. The thief made no money on either transaction. Both shipped to Lagos, Nigeria.
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  1. Roger, it might be that you were lucky in your transactions :-) . These lusers send out tonnes of emails and even if they are sucessful in swindling 10-15 people fo every million emails they send out, they would have made a profit (since the price of sending an email is almost null)

    Cheers
    Reply

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